diff --git a/src/clj/com/rpl/specter.cljx b/src/clj/com/rpl/specter.cljx
index 8bd36e5..27c3708 100644
--- a/src/clj/com/rpl/specter.cljx
+++ b/src/clj/com/rpl/specter.cljx
@@ -619,8 +619,8 @@
   ([cond-p then-path]
     (if-path cond-p then-path STOP))
   ([cond-p then-path else-path]
-    (let [then-comp (i/comp-paths* then-path)
-          else-comp (i/comp-paths* else-path)
+    (let [then-comp (i/comp-paths-internalized then-path)
+          else-comp (i/comp-paths-internalized else-path)
           then-needed (i/num-needed-params then-comp)
           else-needed (i/num-needed-params else-comp)
           then-nav (i/extract-rich-nav then-comp)
@@ -651,7 +651,7 @@
               then-needed
               else-nav
               ))))
-        (let [cond-comp (i/comp-paths* cond-p)            
+        (let [cond-comp (i/comp-paths-internalized cond-p)            
               cond-needed (i/num-needed-params cond-comp)]
           (richnav (+ then-needed else-needed cond-needed)
             (select* [this params params-idx vals structure next-fn]
@@ -706,8 +706,8 @@
   ([] STAY)
   ([path] (i/comp-paths* path))
   ([path1 path2]
-    (let [comp1 (i/comp-paths* path1)
-          comp2 (i/comp-paths* path2)
+    (let [comp1 (i/comp-paths-internalized path1)
+          comp2 (i/comp-paths-internalized path2)
           comp1-needed (i/num-needed-params comp1)
           nav1 (i/extract-rich-nav comp1)
           nav2 (i/extract-rich-nav comp2)
diff --git a/src/clj/com/rpl/specter/impl.cljx b/src/clj/com/rpl/specter/impl.cljx
index 2be4812..0742310 100644
--- a/src/clj/com/rpl/specter/impl.cljx
+++ b/src/clj/com/rpl/specter/impl.cljx
@@ -389,6 +389,9 @@
                   (next-fn params2 params-idx2 vals-next structure-next)
                   )))))))))
 
+(defn comp-paths-internalized [path]
+  (capture-params-internally (comp-paths* path)))
+
 (extend-protocol PathComposer
   nil
   (do-comp-paths [o]
diff --git a/src/clj/com/rpl/specter/macros.clj b/src/clj/com/rpl/specter/macros.clj
index 12bf1c0..5e6c323 100644
--- a/src/clj/com/rpl/specter/macros.clj
+++ b/src/clj/com/rpl/specter/macros.clj
@@ -67,16 +67,19 @@
                           (+ ~PARAMS-IDX-SYM ~num-params)
                           (conj vals# c#)
                           ~structure-sym)                     
-                        ))]
-     (i/->ParamsNeededPath
-       (reify RichNavigator
-         (~'rich-select* [this# ~PARAMS-SYM ~PARAMS-IDX-SYM vals# ~structure-sym next-fn#]
-           (collector# ~PARAMS-SYM ~PARAMS-IDX-SYM vals# ~structure-sym next-fn#))
-         (~'rich-transform* [this# ~PARAMS-SYM ~PARAMS-IDX-SYM vals# ~structure-sym next-fn#]
-           (collector# ~PARAMS-SYM ~PARAMS-IDX-SYM vals# ~structure-sym next-fn#))
-         )
-       ~num-params
-       )))
+                        ))
+         nav# (reify RichNavigator
+                (~'rich-select* [this# ~PARAMS-SYM ~PARAMS-IDX-SYM vals# ~structure-sym next-fn#]
+                  (collector# ~PARAMS-SYM ~PARAMS-IDX-SYM vals# ~structure-sym next-fn#))
+                (~'rich-transform* [this# ~PARAMS-SYM ~PARAMS-IDX-SYM vals# ~structure-sym next-fn#]
+                  (collector# ~PARAMS-SYM ~PARAMS-IDX-SYM vals# ~structure-sym next-fn#))
+                )]
+     (if (= ~num-params 0)
+       (i/no-params-rich-compiled-path nav#)
+       (i/->ParamsNeededPath
+         nav#
+         ~num-params
+         ))))
 
 (defn ^:no-doc pathed-nav* [builder paths-seq latefns-sym pre-bindings post-bindings impls]
   (let [num-params-sym (gensym "num-params")]
@@ -102,7 +105,9 @@
            ret# ~(builder post-bindings num-params-sym impls)
            ]
     (if (not any-params-needed?#)
-      (i/bind-params* ret# nil 0)
+      (if (i/params-needed-path? ret#)
+        (i/bind-params* ret# nil 0)
+        ret#)
       ret#
       ))))